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Friday, September 2

Troubling Dichotomy


One of the troubling dichotomies of the Christian world is 'truth versus love,' which often plays itself out in liberal/conservative polarization. Listen to this qoute from Hans von Balthasar: "...there is nothing true or good, in the long term, without the light of grace of that which is freely bestowed. And a Christianity which went along with modernity and subscribed merely to the true (faith as a system of correct propositions) or merely to the good (faith as that which is most useful and healthy for the subject) would be a Christianity knocked down from its own heights. When the saints interpreted their existence in the light of God's greater glory, they were always the guardians of the beautiful."

Wouldn't it be great to have the good, the true, and the beautiful all at once present in our Christian communities?

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  1. Anonymous Anonymous said...

    In truth there is nothing but Love, and that is the Beauty of Life.

    Farewell good people, I go to rock other boats.

    Gary

    2:43 PM, September 02, 2005  
  2. Blogger Dan Trabue said...

    Ah, but you haven't visited our sweet little corner of the world...

    4:02 PM, September 02, 2005  
  3. Blogger voixdange said...

    "which often plays itself out in liberal/conservative polarization"

    Therein lies the rub does it not?
    We allow ourselves to be polorized...
    In other words... we have basic core values as Christians that no one political party really addresses fully.
    Most of our disagreement comes in prioritizing the concerns that we feel need addressed.


    Wouldn't it be great to have the good, the true, and the beautiful all at once present in our Christian communities?

    Yes indeed...

    7:15 PM, September 02, 2005  
  4. Blogger jazztheo said...

    Father,
    Would you dare to venture as to what it would look like? The Spirit of Christ is present and at work in our churches so the Grace and Truth of Christ must be present in varying degrees in our communities. What about your parish? Tell us of the glimpses of this that you see.

    9:12 PM, September 02, 2005  
  5. Blogger Constantine said...

    Hans von Balthasar, huh? I'm glad to see it. I like him even though he is steeped in the "Whore of Babylon." Of course, he's dead now, and I guess we know what that means being that he's a heretic and such. Really too bad. He should have converted. Apparently he wasn't smart enough to know better.

    9:17 PM, September 02, 2005  
  6. Blogger madcapmum said...

    Bye, Gary, God be with you.

    The true, the good, and the beautiful are all at once present in our Christian communities - along with the false, the bad, and the hideous. I think that's the ongoing humiliation and gentleness of God, to tie himself to us like that and allow us to determine his image.

    Hopefully, because we're all imbalanced towards one side or the other, it all works out to give a whole. That's why I'm here, liberal sort that I am, because I think that the more conservative element is essential to working out a balance in society and religion at large. And vice versa.

    9:32 PM, September 02, 2005  
  7. Anonymous theophilus said...

    Catch me up Padre...fill me in on who Hans von Balthasar is.

    9:48 PM, September 02, 2005  
  8. Blogger voixdange said...

    "The true, the good, and the beautiful are all at once present in our Christian communities - along with the false, the bad, and the hideous. I think that's the ongoing humiliation and gentleness of God, to tie himself to us like that and allow us to determine his image."

    WOW. Speechless again MCM.

    10:10 PM, September 02, 2005  
  9. Blogger madcapmum said...

    Well, ya know, I look in the mirror every morning, and I just have to know it's true.... ;-) (But thanks, Angevoix, you're a generous soul.)

    10:45 PM, September 02, 2005  
  10. Blogger voixdange said...

    God knows I love Him, MCM... when I look in the mirror I am not deceived into thinking I hold this treasure in anything but a very earthen vessel.

    10:16 AM, September 03, 2005  
  11. Blogger madcapmum said...

    I hope you didn't think I was implying that you thought otherwise, Ange, cuz I wasn't, for sure. I only meant to say that I can't help but see my own duality in everything I do.

    Sigh. Sometimes internet communication is so darn... imperfect.

    10:53 AM, September 03, 2005  
  12. Blogger voixdange said...

    No...that's exactly what I thought you were saying and I was again agreeing with you... Just can't get used to that can you...ha ha ha...

    1:25 PM, September 03, 2005  
  13. Blogger voixdange said...

    In otherwords -- I understood you as you meant it... I didn't take it as meaning anything towards me at all...except the generous soul bit...yet somehow I don't feel alone in that...especially on this blog.

    1:29 PM, September 03, 2005  
  14. Blogger madcapmum said...

    Yeah, if you'd just stop all that agreeable-ness, I'd cope a lot better!

    8:49 PM, September 03, 2005  
  15. Blogger jholder said...

    Alvin Kimel, former ECUSA priest and current Roman Catholic convert, writes an interesting piece on this very subject on his blog, "Pontifications", called "The Antinomian Episcopal Church". He covers the problems of this false dichotomy, although not very in depth. Primarily he is calling out the problems with only having one side of the puzzle.

    Fr. Neo, it sure seems to me you knew this was a false dichotomy before you posted it... (grin)

    Costa, you sound a little put out?

    12:22 PM, September 05, 2005  

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